Plaza de Panama Committee's Proposed "Restoration" of Balboa Park
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Led by Mayor Jerry Sanders and private citizen/billionaire Irwin Jacobs, the proposed "historic restoration" of Balboa Park by the Jacobs-funded and appointed "Plaza de Panama Committee" in reality has nothing to do with historic preservation. Jacobs' Plan would effectively destroy large sections of the scenic and historic National Register-listed Balboa Park in favor of the heavy-handed implementation of extensive car-friendly infrastructure. Mr. Jacobs and Mayor Sanders are willing to severly compromise the historic integrity and aesthetics of Balboa Park in order to build a massive, un-needed and unwanted concrete off-ramp off of the individually historically-designated Cabrillo Bridge. Furthermore, the "team" plans to fill in Palm Canyon to expand the parking lot behind the Alcazar Gardens (and create a traffic snarl unlike any that Balboa Park has previously known) and to create a major new sunken roadway (AKA a deep trench) all the way from the Cabrillo Bridge to a massive new parking structure located behind the Spreckels Organ Pavillion. They say that the parking structure behind the Spreckels Organ Pavillion is going to be "below grade," but their drawings clearly show otherwise. All told, this new infrastructure will divide and ruin Balboa Park just like Robert Moses' BQE screwed up New York City decades ago -- before city planners apparently "knew better." Please visit www.sohosandiego.org for accurate information on the proposed project that will likely cost the City of San Diego 10s if not 100s of millions of dollars, turn Balboa Park into a construction zone for the next 10+ years, and destroy it for everybody except those who only like to enjoy it from inside their cars while on their way to the Old Globe Theatre. (While the motivations behind this abominable plan are unclear, it is important to note that Jacobs is a major financial supporter of the Old Globe, around which the plan appears to have been designed to singularly bennefit.) There are many ways to enhance and restore Balboa Park that will not come at such a high cost. Please help defeat this plan by voting to give Mayor Sanders, Irwin Jacobs and the Plaza de Panama Committee an Onion.
I am absolutely AGAINST the Sanders/Jacobs plan; it deserves the largest stinkiest Onion the jury can muster.
BUT ... the inaccuracies and irrelevancies of the nomination (presumably by SOHO) are egregious and deplorable.
Statements like "plans to fill in Palm Canyon" (misleading partial-truth), "ruin Balboa Park just like Robert Moses' BQE screwed up New York City decades ago" (irrelevant partial-truth), and vitriol such as "While the motivations behind this abominable plan are unclear, it is important to note that Jacobs is a major financial supporter of the Old Globe, around which the plan appears to have been designed to singularly bennefit." have no place in a posting of this sort.
SOHO absolutely MUST get off it's moralistic personally vituperative high-horse or risk losing much popular support.
Submitted by Jim Stieringer on Wed, 10/12/2011 - 02:02.
Adoption of the Jacobs Plan would forever change the character of San Diego's most important civic asset. It offers a solution to a non-problem. Parking is not, and never has been a problem, except on December Nights. The unintended consequence will be paid parking, beginning with the new parking garage. People will walk a half mile to the free Zoo parking lot rather than pay to park in the new garage. The Zoological Society will then be forced to begin charging to park in its lot in order to assure sufficient space for zoo patrons.
Submitted by Fred Williams on Sun, 10/02/2011 - 05:58.
Add my vote for an Onion...the asphalt and guardrails Balboa By-Pass Bridge to valet parking idea stinks. Instead of removing cars from the park, it makes traffic permanent.
Enough of phoney "philanthropy" that destroys cultural heritage, corrupts public institutions, and trades valuable future options for short sighted greed.
This should be recognized as the most pungent and foul project in San Diego's history.
Submitted by Andrew Wright on Thu, 09/01/2011 - 02:51.
Any project that deals with a registered historical site is a complex one, and this one is no exception especially since Balboa Park is the cultural hub of San Diego. After looking at Irwin Jacob's plan, the SOHO Plan and the Precise Plan (which only differs a small amount from SOHO's), I must say that all three plans lack a certain responsibility and delicacy to the historical character of the park. Of course the big issue here I believe is the actual plaza itself. Many feel that having the plaza be closed to all automotive traffic is a great idea, and I must say that I agree. But there must also be more thought and heavy analysis into how the plaza would be used by pedestrians without the cars. Studies in human behavior in built environments have shown that people tend to stay and walk towards the outer areas of a plaza, and this becomes even more true as the plaza becomes larger. Outdoor spaces are also called outdoor rooms at times, but these spaces need to have features that allow the users to feel comfortable in such a large plaza. These are issues that really need to be looked at, and without looking at Irwin Jacob's plan in detail I must say that it is lacking considerably in this area. There are so many ideas that can be implemented at Balboa Park and specifically at Plaza de Panama, and I feel as though this project as well as the older Precise Plan do not take a thorough look at what is really needed and what is a great opportunity to enhance the park and San Diego as a whole. I must say that I fully agree with giving this project an onion, as I am sure there are better ways to spend the money and time. I hope that other plans and designs are introduced in the immediate future.
I’m sure that if Mr. Wright took the time to look at the design proposals for the Plaza de Panama “in detail” he would find all of the things that he says it lacks; among them, shade trees and seating areas around the outer edges of the plaza, water features for children to play in, reproductions of missing historic lighting fixtures, and the retention of the lovely central fountain. Actually you don’t need to look at the plan “in detail”, just look at the renderings on the Orchid nomination of the Plaza de Panama project listed under Miscellaneous. It’s all there.
Please understand, there is no "SOHO Plan." SOHO simply advocates that the City follow its own plan -- the "Precise Plan," with some modifications. The "Precise Plan" took the City 20+- years to complete, with about 10+ years of public input to ensure that the will of the people was duly considered, AND it has already gone through all the legal channels ensuring it could be implemented in time for the 2015 Centennial. The poorly thought-out Jacobs/ Sanders Plan seems to have been concocted in all of about 20+- minutes, and despite all the back-room wrangling currently going on to force it through at any cost, something of that immense scale and cost couldn't likely be completed in less than 10 years.
Submitted by Anonymous on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 17:19.
I have never had a major issue with the parking near or around the park. I also tend to walk or bike if I can. Any traffic issues that I have experienced have been insignificant. If I have to spend ten or so extra minutes getting through the area, it is not the end of the world. How about focusing the time and money on better public transportation so that people don't have to drive and park?
Submitted by Laplayaheritage on Sun, 10/02/2011 - 01:54.
Grand Onion for wasting everyone's time with a boondoggle design and trying to introduce paid parking in Balboa Park. Paid parking already exist at a cost of $10 per Valeted car. The money the City of San Diego gets for the existing paid parking is either nil, or close to nil.
The backers of this project are the same groups who promised funding for the new Central Library.
Submitted by Dan Soderberg on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 06:09.
It is Ironic that those who want to do the so called "restoration" of Balboa Park know precious little about the history. If they had simply taken the time to study the previous work put into the Balboa Park Master Plan they might have learned something. Chiefly that the bypass idea had already been given a test drive, and it was rejected.
What was called Alternate B of the Balboa Park Master Plan. It was a bypass bridge nearly identical to the one proposed by Irwin Jacobs. However through a careful review and vetting process that included not only the planners, but the City staff, as well as community input. Each and all decided "thumbs down" to the bypass.
The bypass was rejected for exactly the same reasons we hear about today. Here are the four reasons cited then:
1. Severe impacts both visually and architecturally to a Spanish Colonial theme National Register Historic District.
2. Traffic and pedestrian conflicts that will occur at the Southeast approach portion of the Cabrillo Bridge where the bypass bridge butts in.
3. Visual impacts to Palm Canyon
4. Extremely poor cost to benefit ratio. An expensive and massive infrastructure project heavily laden with cutting, digging, grading, retaining wall construction, concrete, and asphalt. It was decided the money could be better spent elsewhere in the park for greater bang for the buck.
According to Councilmember Gloria Balboa Park is $250 million dollars behind in maintenance and repairs, other wise known as "deferred maintenance." So the argument that the money could be better spent elsewhere is even more pertinent today than it was when the Master Plan was developed. Sources: Jay Schumaker and Vicki Estrada, who worked on the Master Plan, through numerous public presentations they've done in recent months.
Rather than fighting the same battle all over again regarding the bypass, the Mayor should have called upon Mr. Jacobs to help fund the existing Balboa Park Master Plan. Instead spin was put forward that the plan sat on the shelf all these years because it failed to inspire support. The truth is the plan had achieved full funding and was ready to go. But then past Mayors and City Manager robbed those funds for other pet projects. I say we've had enough meddling by Mayors in Balboa Park. The whole situation reeks of extremely ripe onion.
Dan Soderberg
Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 05:30.
This plan just may be the worst design and solution overkill to remove a few parking spaces ever to cross San Diego's path. The public process should get an onion all by itself, the plan and design another.Makes San Diego seem like some backwoods town with such an unsophisticated approach.
Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 03:12.
So the mayor and Irwin Jacobs took a walk through the park and Irwin envisioned a grand plan -- grand in that it focused almost entirely on valet parking for his friends, manipulation of Balboa Park institutions, destruction of a National Historical Landmark, introduction of more vehicles and paid parking, and an attempt to avoid property environmental review. The City Council, the Mayor, and the Plaza de Panama Committee should all share in a very stinky onion.
Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 19:36.
I can understand wanting to remove the parking from the Plaza de Panama and would nominate a plan to do so for an Orchid. But to spend 40 million dollars (15 million in public funds) on a "by-pass bridge" that would not only destroy the views and character of the historic Cabrillo ("Laurel Street") bridge but would require visitors to the park to pay to park for the first time in history. A classic case of "we must destroy it in order to save it" mentality. There are obvious, less expensive and less intrusive alternatives. If we are so concerned about the sanctity of the park perhaps we should ban people from it. Let get real and consider a more reasonable "both/and" solution. This plan stinks like dog poop.
Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 08/19/2011 - 18:58.
This project seems to propose a task that is out of scale with the desired effect, which has been stated is to remove cars from the park and to reopen Plaza de Panama to pedestrians pursuant to its original use.
Could not the goal be accomplished by simply removing the existing surface parking spaces located in the center of the Plaza, in the vicinity of the Museum of Art and the adjacent roundabout? Further removing vehicle access from the deck of the Cabrillo Bridge, except park shuttles, would help to eliminate traffic concerns and would provide a safe pedestrian environment for entering the west side of the Plaza from 6th Avenue. All parking lots could remain as they are currently configured at the northeast and southeast ends of the park, and along and across Park Boulevard.
I do not see the necessity of altering the Cabrillo Bridge to restore Plaza de Panama. There is a disconnect in the project proposal when compared to the project goals.
Submitted by Laziness prevails on Thu, 09/01/2011 - 22:14.
Absolutely agree! Those twenty or so parking spaces that would be removed will not make any difference and there are handicapped parking spaces near the Museum of Natural History. Increase the number of handicapped parking spaces there if necessary. People will not suffer unduly if they are forced to walk a whole five minutes to get where they need to go. I know it's Southern California, but let's not let that LA, drive everywhere, mentality completly take over in San Diego. I know that we're almost there, but Stop the Madness!!!!
The Plaza de Panama project would move handicapped parking from the center of the park, to the Alcazar parking lot, to keep it close to the museums on the west end of the Prado. Proposing that the handicapped should walk from the Museum of Natural History lot to the other end of the Prado is cruel, remember… they’re handicapped.
lucas, whose payroll are you on? There is other parking close to Park Blvd that affords access to the Natural History Museum and Fleet Science Center. There is vehicle access behind the Museum of Art leading to the Old Globe.
What needs to happen, along with the removal of vehicles from the Plaza de Panama, is full shuttle service across the Cabrillo Bridge to serve those museums and the Old Globe theatre. That would actually make access easier! Patrons could be dropped-off right in front of the Old Globe, which is impossible at present.
Onion? How about Orchid!
I'll take 6+ reclaimed acres of auto-free parkland over the current car-choked condition any day. From what I've seen the opposition still wants thousands of cars driving through the historic center of the park. Been there, done that.
Orchid all the way and please finish by 2015.
Submitted by the hazard on Thu, 09/01/2011 - 23:10.
the net gain in parking spaces (when you subtract for the ones lost and valet) is very small - all for a mere $40 million.
As a businessman, that is known as a poor rate of return...
The opposition (the National Trust for Historic Preservation, the State Office for Historic Preservation, SOHO, the Committee of 100, the Women's League of Voters, five community planning groups in District Three, about 25 groups and the majority of Citizens) does not advocate thousands of cars driving their the historic core.
Where in the world did you get that from? Likely one of Jacob's talking points that he gives to Friends of Irwin?
The Jacobs/Sanders Folly is an expensive (please don't tell me that Jacobs will pay for much of this, I don't believe it), destructive plan that will forever ruin the People's Park (People, not Irwin).
If Jacobs' "vision" is a traffic-free Plaza de Panama, you could do it tomorrow for free; there are about a dozen options that he refuses to listen to - why is this man so stubborn. I guess he has done much for the county, but he is in danger of being forever known as the man to led the de-listing from the National Register of Balboa Park...
His Folly truly deserves the Onion of the Century...it smells worse than a 9th grade boy's cheap cologne (been there, done it 2)
Submitted by Anonymous on Thu, 09/01/2011 - 16:34.
Am I missing something? The Jacob's plan calls for the addition of a parking structure in the Park....and an addition of a bypass off of a the historic bridge. Yes cars will be removed from the plaza but more cars will be coming across the bridge to the Park...not less.
The opposition has suggested removal of cars and use of alternative transportation...and their vetted plan costs almost nothing as compared to the tens of millions that will be required to execute this plan
This is smoke and mirrors... Onion for sure
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